comments on: xer file slow to import to p6? try cleaning pobs data - 瑞士vs喀麦隆足彩赔率 //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/ project controls training & courses wed, 09 sep 2020 06:50:04 +0000 hourly 1 by: menly abreu //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-80118 wed, 09 sep 2020 06:50:04 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-80118 hi guys!

any of you knows of a tool similar to ahmet’s (that doesn’t need to be installed in windows to work) to clean the risk types? due to company’s restrictions i can’t install any software.

many thanks!

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-76320 mon, 16 mar 2020 18:30:33 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-76320 in reply to nabila arifannisa.

glad you were able to follow the instructions and solve it.

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-76319 mon, 16 mar 2020 18:29:55 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-76319 in reply to nabila arifannisa.

you’re welcome!

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by: nabila arifannisa //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-76295 sun, 15 mar 2020 02:46:06 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-76295 in reply to nabila arifannisa.

i deleted rows under risk type, and the file reduced to 107 kb
thank you very much

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by: nabila arifannisa //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-76294 sun, 15 mar 2020 02:25:59 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-76294 hi, i have tried to clean pobs by notepad, my file had 59 mb before and reduce to 22 mb.
once import the file, i still almost need 2 hours, and the longest time need to import is importing risk category.

is there any way to solve this issues?

thanks before

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75836 fri, 08 nov 2019 14:01:47 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75836 in reply to mit gad.

i don’t know that i would spend time on it. the pobs problem is fixed in later versions of primavera p6, so i would likely spend my time upgrading instead.

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by: mit gad //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75819 thu, 07 nov 2019 05:46:40 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75819 hello,

is there any way to automate the pobs data as scheduled task?

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75636 tue, 03 sep 2019 20:47:49 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75636 in reply to azami mohd noor.

thanks for the tip! don’t know why that risktype area is always so large.

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by: azami mohd noor //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75635 tue, 03 sep 2019 18:04:42 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75635 for citrix user, delete rows under risktype to reduce the file size

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by: prabhakar pandey //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75225 wed, 01 may 2019 17:37:47 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75225 export to .xml its easy.

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by: darmar //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-75193 thu, 25 apr 2019 13:45:31 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-75193 schedulecleaner is also featuring pobs cleaning option. see more at https://schedulecleaner.com/

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-64111 fri, 31 aug 2018 13:35:26 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-64111 in reply to andrew.

a big you’re welcome!

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by: andrew //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-63907 wed, 22 aug 2018 23:47:22 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-63907 big thanks! that saved my butt :))

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by: muhammad //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-59555 sun, 03 jun 2018 06:13:49 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-59555 i used the pob cleaner, simply fantastic! thanks for sharing the info.

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by: rene riegal //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-59349 thu, 31 may 2018 04:29:15 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-59349 i tried ahmet’s tool but get runtime errors when importing. anyone have an alternative besides the notepad approach? thanks.

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-47855 wed, 23 aug 2017 08:10:48 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-47855 in reply to amr.

happy to hear you’re getting value. cheers!
michael

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by: amr //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-47852 wed, 23 aug 2017 07:38:29 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-47852 great comment as usual mark.

thanks a lot for such an amazing articles and site.

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by: emma seaton //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-45566 fri, 26 may 2017 03:38:54 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-45566 instead of scrolling the normal way with the mouse, once you’ve found the end of the pobs data click with the mouse before the next %t and use the side scroll bar to navigate back to the top of the data in less than a second.
i use notepad to routinely check and clean xers and this technique takes me less than 10 seconds even on 25mb files!
thanks for the instructions, this has now become the basis of a work instruction on pobs for our planners. i include a link back to this page. 🙂

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by: preeth //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-42448 thu, 12 jan 2017 12:25:22 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-42448 in reply to ahmet kochan.

dear ahmet kochan,

you are the man!

very simple & effective tool.

thanks,
pda

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by: jeanie //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-40497 tue, 30 aug 2016 19:27:42 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-40497 in reply to michael lepage.

sad to report that it is not fixed in the latest. i am using 15.2 and my normal export is usually 1.16mb… this week it was 16.6 mb.

i had 65000+ lines of pobs data.

i used ahmet’s fix though and it worked like a charm.

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by: simon graffe //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-40406 fri, 26 aug 2016 13:20:31 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-40406 hello:

i tested ahmet’s tool and found a problem with it. i wrote my own little tool in c, and it simply copies byte for byte the file, skipping the offending information.

ahmet’s tool apparently reads characters, and those characters are interpreted according to local language, or character sets, or whatever. you can see the problem in the line corresponding to currencies, in which the pound sign is changed and altered. it also mangles characters with accents, and imagine many characters not in the standard english character set.

so a little revision of the tool has to be done.

nice interface! mine does not have one it is just a command line c program, but it is so fast that the dos windows hardly gets noticed. once is is used, it gets added to the windows explorer context menu, so using it is a breeze for individual files.

regards
simon graffe

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by: damir urmeyev //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-40129 mon, 01 aug 2016 19:34:00 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-40129 great tool! thanks ahmet!!

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by: lili //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-39788 thu, 23 jun 2016 06:37:21 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-39788 in reply to walid bostami.

thanks ahmet !!
very useful

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by: walid bostami //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-39421 wed, 25 may 2016 00:33:58 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-39421 thanks ahmet great tool indeed

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by: walid bostami //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-39420 wed, 25 may 2016 00:31:57 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-39420 in reply to pablo g.

great tool ahmet thanks

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by: rich //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-39399 tue, 24 may 2016 06:32:59 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-39399 i have downloaded ahmet’s .rar file but i do not know how to use it. what is the actual process to clean the xer. if someone could outline the step by step process i’d be very grateful.

thanks

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-38319 thu, 17 mar 2016 17:04:57 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-38319 in reply to james anabo.

james – look above for a comment from ahmet kochan – he’s got a nice little app for free that will clean up pobs in an xer file. 20 minutes still seems very long. try his app.

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by: james anabo //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-38301 wed, 16 mar 2016 11:12:58 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-38301 dear michael,

i used to import a project in about 45 minutes whose file size is about 31 mb. then i cleaned the file using your method and i shaved off 53,200 lines from a total of 207,000 lines, which reduced the file size to around 23 mb.

now, i am importing in about 20 minutes.

is there anyway for me to reduce the file size further and hence reducing the importing time?

the schedule is resource loaded.

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by: pablo g //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-37855 fri, 12 feb 2016 18:18:24 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-37855 in reply to ahmet kochan.

thank you very much!! perfect tool! 5 stars!!

the way i used was a macro in notepad++. but yours is awesome!!!

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by: nick b //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-36317 fri, 18 dec 2015 16:13:11 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-36317 for those just using notepad with many lines (to avoid scrolling):

mine had about 300,000 lines. since i don’t have notepad++, i simply:

1) ctrl+f the pobs %t

2) find next

3) highlight the row above the next %t

4) click the scroll bar and drag it all the way to the top

5) find that %t next to the pobs (should be easy to locate, since it’ll be really close to the top

6) hold shift, highlight to the %t next to the pobs

7) delete, and hit ctrl + s to save,

8) import your file

this saved me about…. well…. god knows how long. 300,000 lines is not fun to scroll through. just figured i’d offer a quick tip for those with limited 世界杯时间比赛时间

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by: keith //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-36246 tue, 15 dec 2015 21:16:07 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-36246 fantastic! thanks so much!

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by: rags //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-35996 thu, 10 dec 2015 11:32:27 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-35996 superb michael it indeed saved a lot of blushes

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by: meredith //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-35824 fri, 04 dec 2015 15:43:14 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-35824 thank you michael. big help on finding this post when the import file kept crashing with over 11,000 pobs in a 50 activity schedule!

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by: woori kim //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-35819 fri, 04 dec 2015 09:29:06 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-35819 mr. michael,

thank you very much for your kind information.
i’ve got bigggg problem about this issue till yesterday. it took 3 hours to import a schedule.

thank you, again.

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-34648 thu, 29 oct 2015 17:41:29 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-34648 in reply to john.

hi john, i just confirmed from oracle this is fixed in p6 v15.1.5.

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by: john //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-34615 wed, 28 oct 2015 14:41:22 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-34615 i recently heard from colleagues that this issue has been fixed in the new release of p6v15. do you know if this is true?

regards,
john

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-31315 wed, 26 aug 2015 16:44:49 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-31315 in reply to davo.

davo, that works fine as long as you get the xer file parser to work. i know many users have difficulties with it.
michael

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by: davo //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-31270 wed, 26 aug 2015 03:46:16 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-31270 how about just deleting the pobs table in xer file parser? then rebuild the xer.

would this work?

regards

davo

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-31263 wed, 26 aug 2015 02:16:18 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-31263 in reply to ahmet kochan.

ahmet, thanks for sharing! can’t wait to test it out.
michael

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by: imran malik //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-31176 mon, 24 aug 2015 07:43:33 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-31176 in reply to ahmet kochan.

thank you ahmet kochan. great help indeed.

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by: ahmet kochan //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-31112 sat, 22 aug 2015 18:44:43 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-31112 i created a tool to clean pobs data from xer files. multiple xer files can be selected and cleaned at once. original files will be kept and new clean copies will be created with a “_clean” suffix. it is a totally free tool to help community to prevent long import times and waste of database space. here is the link for download : https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrvxchtwsvs5778/pobs%20cleaner.rar?dl=0

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30137 thu, 06 aug 2015 20:33:12 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30137 in reply to marcos hernández.

marcos, thanks for sharing your experience and solution with us. we’ll have to see if we can confirm that the issues you mention from 2003/04 have been fixed in newer versions of primavera p6 professional.
thanks again!
michael

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by: marcos hernández //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30136 thu, 06 aug 2015 20:23:14 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30136 i was kind of curious on tour post; i am a regular reader of this posts, but i can share with all of you a courious experience from the past: there was 2003 or 2004 maybe, and i has exactly the very same situation, but there were not hours, the hours became a weekend trying to import a file into a powerful laptop. in a nutshell, the issue was not the number of lines of the schedule, but the type of resource availability assigned per activity (i mean, many 世界杯时间比赛时间 per activity). what i discovered, per a desperate mistake or casualty was this: if i were able to export first of all from the source all the 世界杯时间比赛时间 in an .xer file and then import them in the new database, it was more or less quick (by that time, it took one minute…) then i exported the project and imported it into the new database, and it took only five minutes the import who had lasted days!!!!!.
well, this happy coincidences happens. hope this can become a hint for future cases, in particular working with old primavera setups, migrations and that type of cases.
regards everybody. marcos.

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30123 thu, 06 aug 2015 16:48:44 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30123 in reply to ilya kabanov.

ilya, interesting approach. tried this, but my version of word doesn’t offer me a “plain text” option anywhere – so the xer file doesn’t open properly. any ideas?

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by: ilya kabanov //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30121 thu, 06 aug 2015 16:14:43 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30121 great article! thanks a lot!
let me just add a bit of automation for this removal using standard ms word means:
1) open xer file through word open dialog with wildcard “*.*”
2) select “plain text” for the option of opening dialog
3) use search & replace dialog with the following settings
search for: %t^tpobs*%t
replace with: %t
use wildcards: +
4) press replace
5) save as plain text file with standard win encoding page
6) in explorer – rename extension from txt into .xer

7) enjoy 🙂

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by: mark //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30117 thu, 06 aug 2015 15:21:09 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30117 michael/derek,
thanks for the info. and the tips for the solution/work around.

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by: michael lepage //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30111 thu, 06 aug 2015 12:52:25 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30111 in reply to derek cairns.

derek, thanks for the heads up on these tools.

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by: derek cairns //www.deco-dalles.com/clean-pobs-xer-file/#comment-30110 thu, 06 aug 2015 12:50:11 +0000 //www.deco-dalles.com/?p=31620#comment-30110 michael
i’m using pobs cleaner from emerald associates. i was using your quick method, but this is even quicker. it’s a free download and scrubs a 25mb file clean in less time than it takes to open the .xer in notepad. there is also a pobs cleaner utility in xertoolkit

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