{"id":39440,"date":"2017-08-03t07:22:23","date_gmt":"2017-08-03t11:22:23","guid":{"rendered":"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/?p=39440"},"modified":"2019-10-18t12:21:35","modified_gmt":"2019-10-18t16:21:35","slug":"find-out-of-sequence-activities-primavera-p6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/find-out-of-sequence-activities-primavera-p6\/","title":{"rendered":"how to find out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>have you ever had a primavera p6 situation where all <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/create-predecessor-report-primavera-p6\/\">predecessors of an activity<\/a> are 100% complete but the activity\u2019s <strong>start<\/strong> date isn&#8217;t pushed to the <strong>data date<\/strong> as expected? similarly, you might also see the activity&#8217;s\u00a0<strong>finish<\/strong> date is much later than the it&#8217;s remaining duration from <strong>data date<\/strong>? if you answered yes then this <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/project-controls-tips-tutorials\/\">quick tip<\/a> might help you find the offending activity cause these problems.<\/p>\n<h3>the problem<\/h3>\n<p>to illustrate this problem with out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6, let\u2019s have a look at this schedule with data date of 02-aug-16.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39441 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_011.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"1273\" height=\"287\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_011.png 1273w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_011-300x68.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_011-768x173.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_011-600x135.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1273px) 100vw, 1273px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>there are 2 activities with unexpected dates, <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> and <strong>dummy activity 06<\/strong>, so let\u2019s investigate further. if i select <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> and have a look at the predecessors of this activity in the <strong>details form<\/strong>, it clearly shows that all the predecessors to <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> are completed, therefore one would expect <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> to have a start date of 02-aug-16 and not 09-aug-16.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39442 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_021-e1501701077620.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"560\" height=\"262\" \/><\/p>\n<p>following same steps, <strong>dummy activity 06<\/strong> should have a <strong>finish<\/strong> date of 15-aug-16 and not 22-aug-16 since all its predecessors are also completed.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39443 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_031.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"996\" height=\"426\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_031.png 996w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_031-300x128.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_031-768x328.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_031-600x257.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>these 2 scenarios normally prompts the question; &#8220;why are the dates not as expected&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>the simple answer is that these activities were executed in an order different than the order we had planned (called <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/handling-out-of-sequence-progress-in-an-updated-p6-schedule\/\">out-of-sequence progressing<\/a>). at the same time, we&#8217;re using a scheduling setting in primavera p6 called <strong>retained logic. retained logic <\/strong>handles <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/cpm-scheduling-101-primavera-scheduling-works\/\">how primavera p6 will schedule<\/a> progressed activities and in the case where activities are progressed out-of-sequence, p6 will ensure the schedule still retains the original logic between activities.<\/p>\n<h3>the solution<\/h3>\n<p>a way to trace the activity or activities currently driving the dates of <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> and<strong> dummy activity 06<\/strong> is to add 2 fields to the <strong>predecessors<\/strong> section of the<strong> relationships<\/strong> tab of the <strong>details form: early start<\/strong> and <strong>early finish<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>all activities that are 100% complete should have<strong> early start<\/strong> and <strong>early finish<\/strong> dates on same date as the<strong> data date<\/strong>, therefore any completed predecessor with <strong>early start<\/strong> and\/or <strong>early finish<\/strong> dates other than the <strong>data date<\/strong> is the offending activity causing <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> and <strong>dummy activity 06<\/strong> to display wrong dates.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39444 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_041.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"952\" height=\"437\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_041.png 952w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_041-300x138.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_041-768x353.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_041-600x275.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 952px) 100vw, 952px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>from image above, <strong>dummy activity 04<\/strong> has <strong>early start<\/strong> and <strong>early finish<\/strong> dates of 08-aug-16 despite been <strong>100% complete<\/strong>, therefore pushing the<strong> start<\/strong> date of <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> to 09-aug-16.<\/p>\n<p>if we check <strong>dummy activity 04<\/strong>, we will notice that its predecessor, <strong>dummy activity 01<\/strong>, is still in progress with an <strong>early finish<\/strong> date of 08-aug-16 and it is this date that has been cascaded to <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> based on <strong>retained logic<\/strong> setting.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39445 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_051.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"984\" height=\"425\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_051.png 984w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_051-300x130.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_051-768x332.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_051-600x259.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>now that i have found the offending out-of-sequence activity.<\/p>\n<p>changing the <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/find-relationship-lag-primavera-p6\/\">relationship logic<\/a> between <strong>dummy activity 01<\/strong> (which is still in progress) and<strong> dummy activity 04<\/strong> (which is 100% complete) from <strong>fs<\/strong> to <strong>ss<\/strong> should solve the problem as shown in the figures below.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39446 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_061.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"968\" height=\"438\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_061.png 968w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_061-300x136.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_061-768x348.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_061-600x271.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 968px) 100vw, 968px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-39447 size-full\" title=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" src=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_071.png\" alt=\"out-of-sequence activities in primavera p6 professional\" width=\"948\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_071.png 948w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_071-300x142.png 300w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_071-768x364.png 768w, \/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/figure_071-600x284.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 948px) 100vw, 948px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>the start date of <strong>dummy activity 05<\/strong> is now 02-aug-16 as expected and also the <strong>finish<\/strong> date of <strong>dummy activity 06<\/strong> is also now 15-aug-16 as expected. similarly the <strong>early start<\/strong> and <strong>early finish<\/strong> dates of all the completed predecessors are now 02-aug-16 as expected.<\/p>\n<h3>conclusion<\/h3>\n<p>i know that after tracing the out-of-sequence activity, i then changed the relationship type from <strong>finish-to-start<\/strong> to <strong>start-to-start. <\/strong>but before you follow suit, it is best you do the following:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>check that the project\u2019s <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/rolling-wave-planning-in-primavera-p6\/\">planning procedure<\/a> to see if your specification allows changing of activities relationship logic post-baseline.<\/li>\n<li>check with the <a href=\"\/\/www.deco-dalles.com\/project-controller-what-you-need-to-know-to-succeed\/\">project engineers<\/a> to find out what the revised relationships for the out-of-sequence activities should be.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>finally, i hope you have found this quick tip useful and as always i would welcome your comments below. what do you think?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>have you ever had a primavera p6 situation where all predecessors of an activity are 100% complete but the 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